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Is This A Super Bowl Or Bust Roster?
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(Football season is finally approaching. After a long offseason, the Cowboys are set to depart for training camp on July 25. During this final month before they begin practice in Oxnard, Calif., the staff of DallasCowboys.com has previewed the 20 biggest questions facing the Cowboys heading into 2019. This is the final entry.)
FRISCO, Texas – The offseason is history. It’s time for training camp and the Cowboys’ pursuit of a special season.
Will this wind up being a “Super” season? Time will tell. But the goal for all 32 teams is to hoist the Lombardi Trophy at the end of the year. The Cowboys are no different.
So, based on their success last year and their work in the offseason, is this a “Super Bowl or bust” roster? That’s the final installment in our 20 Questions series.
David Helman: Even when you’re a legitimate Super Bowl contender, getting there is so much easier said than done. Ask the New Orleans Saints and Kansas City Chiefs if they were “Super Bowl or bust” last year. It’s hard to place those expectations on a team when so much has to go right. But I’ll do my best not to cop out of this question. The Dallas Cowboys are absolutely one of the three or four most talented teams in the NFC. There’s no reason why they can’t be playing in the final game of the season. And with the amount of hefty contracts they’re about to pay out, they’d be smart to make that push sooner rather than later. I don’t know if that means they’ll make the Super Bowl, but I will say this: If this season doesn’t result in the Cowboys winning multiple playoff games for the first time since the 1995 season, it will be a complete disappointment.

Bryan Broaddus: From top to bottom this roster is one of the best in the league on paper, but what you do on paper and how you play are two different things. The front office/coaches have to feel as if they have put together one that could compete for one of the top two spots in the conference. The schedule does them no favors, but I thought they played a tougher one in 2016 and managed to win 13 games with a rookie quarterback/running back. So in my opinion this current roster is just as talented and more experienced. With those lofty expectations comes the pressure on everyone involved to deliver. Not only is there pressure on Jason Garrett but this roster as well. Garrett’s job will likely not depend on him winning a Super Bowl, but let’s not forget what happened two seasons ago in Philadelphia with their talented roster. If things fall right, this squad could have a run similar to what we saw with the Eagles that season, which would take a great deal of pressure off the entire operation.
Rob Phillips: I have no doubt this team, to a man, will be disappointed if they don’t get there. That tells you a lot. Now, as I said in our previous entry, you need a lot of luck – particularly in the injury department – to get that far. But the 2019 Cowboys return 20 of 22 starters from a team that reached the NFC divisional round in 2018. Travis Frederick and Jason Witten are back. They added Robert Quinn to the pass rush. And, that 3-5 start last season might have been the best thing that happened to the young guys. The experience they got battling back from that midseason hole was invaluable. The schedule on paper is much tougher this year. But they expect to be better than last season. I agree.
Lindsay Draper: It seems utterly ridiculous to say, “Well, they lost the divisional round last year, so obviously, an NFC Championship would do it.” But it’s pretty clear that this team – not far off from last year – is stacked with talent. Super Bowl or bust seems a bit unrealistic, since every season brings about unforeseen challenges. But I’d absolutely say that this team is definitely in the midst of a championship ‘window’ right now.
Mickey Spagnola: This is a pretty darn good roster, and probably a lot better than most people outside these walls think. The Cowboys’ offense was pretty strong the second half of last season, scoring at least 27 points in five of the final eight games, and winning two of the three they didn’t. And the offense basically returns intact, likely four-time Pro Bowl center Travis Frederick and 11-time Pro Bowl tight end Jason Witten the only potential new starters, along with the addition of highly-regarded veteran receiver Randall Cobb as the third receiver. The defense last season finished seventh in the NFL, highest finish since No. 1 in 2003. And to think, Leighton Vander Esch now has a year of experience. Linebacker Sean Lee begins the season healthy, figuring to start on the strong side. Byron Jones will have a full season at corner under his belt. Same with Xavier Woods as a starting free safety. And depth on the D-Line should be much improved with the addition of Robert Quinn, Trysten Hill, Kerry Hyder, Christian Covington and a full year of starting experience for Antwaun Woods. And though the Cowboys did get beat in the second round of the playoffs, the loss was to the NFC champion Rams. So absolutely, this is a roster capable of advancing to the Super Bowl. But saying the season is a “bust” if they don’t ultimately get there is a tad harsh. That would mean in the end, 30 teams will have busted by Feb. 2, 2020. Still, don’t be afraid to expect much more from this team than last year.


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I personally don't see it myself...others will disagree, of course!  We have some talent on the roster, but don't think we're solid 'up top', and haven't been for a long time...imo!  If we're healthy, we should have a 'very good' year, but just don't put this org in the top tier.  I'd be excited if we could win a divisional championship round myself.  That would say a lot to me...as we've not won that round since 1995...
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If you look at what this team was, and how they were playing in the second half of last year..... you gotta figure that even a little improvement makes them a serious contender. I think Kitna is exactly what Dak needed. Moore is a smart guy, and I think he'll do well with the offense, but Kitna is really good when it comes to mechanics and technique. He's going to make improvements in Dak's footwork and delivery. So far, it looks like it's working. He's setting his feet and his accuracy is better. If that can become more natural, so he doesn't have to think about it, it will be a boost for the offense. We have a great group of skill players around him and the best line in front of him...... and having a new OC means teams won't know what to expect, at least for the first half of the season.

I'm always optimistic, but this team has everything it needs to be great! I have no doubt that we'll make the playoffs, and I fully expect to make a deeper run!
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#4
Sean Lee starting as Sam. Lee/LVE/Jaylon. Wow!
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hola cowboy fans. sorry no zeke, but not worried. back on the nushagak for a few days. salmon and halibut in my future. been looking to see how to post avatar. haven't found it yet. help?
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found what i need. upper right was actually upper left.
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(07-25-2019, 07:47 PM)Doc Wrote: Sean Lee starting as Sam. Lee/LVE/Jaylon. Wow!
Lee on the strong side scares me a bit, if that's for real...  He has a tough time staying healthy, and imo much better at Will...
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(07-25-2019, 12:53 PM)StarHart Wrote: If you look at what this team was, and how they were playing in the second half of last year..... you gotta figure that even a little improvement makes them a serious contender.  I think Kitna is exactly what Dak needed.  Moore is a smart guy, and I think he'll do well with the offense, but Kitna is really good when it comes to mechanics and technique.  He's going to make improvements in Dak's footwork and delivery.  So far, it looks like it's working.  He's setting his feet and his accuracy is better.  If that can become more natural, so he doesn't have to think about it, it will be a boost for the offense.  We have a great group of skill players around him and the best line in front of him...... and having a new OC means teams won't know what to expect, at least for the first half of the season.

I'm always optimistic, but this team has everything it needs to be great!  I have no doubt that we'll make the playoffs, and I fully expect to make a deeper run!
I think you have to consider this is a 'brand new year'...  What they accomplished in the second half of last year doesn't really mean anything to kick off the new year?  It's not like the momentum just automatically and naturally carries over to the new season.  So yes, they have some talent, I realize your always optimistic, but this is a brand new year as well.  Hopefully Kitna's had an impact, and hopefully the 'highly' inexperienced Moore makes a smooth transition, but again, none of us have a clue how the 2019 season will go.  It's gonna be interesting anyway!
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with the new ad hoc gm, Stephen, making more and more of the personnel decisions, the cowboys are heading in the right direction. and kudos to will mcclay as well. these two have put together a decent cast of characters. all that remains is for the coaches to get the best from them.
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(07-26-2019, 01:17 AM)cellarrodent Wrote: I think you have to consider this is a 'brand new year'...  What they accomplished in the second half of last year doesn't really mean anything to kick off the new year?  It's not like the momentum just automatically and naturally carries over to the new season.  So yes, they have some talent, I realize your always optimistic, but this is a brand new year as well.  Hopefully Kitna's had an impact, and hopefully the 'highly' inexperienced Moore makes a smooth transition, but again, none of us have a clue how the 2019 season will go.  It's gonna be interesting anyway!

Maybe you have to consider that... I don't. 

The most accurate information we have about the state of this team, is the last 8 games of last year.  For the most part, it's the same team, with a few upgrades.  Freddy back at C is an upgrade over Looney, even though Looney played well.
I think Cobb is a bit of an upgrade over Beasley, and having Witten back is certainly an upgrade there.

While momentum doesn't carry over, there is no reason to think players won't improve..... most of them are young and experience will bring some improvement, and more time together should as well.  The new coaches, experience and maturity should help Dak improve.... and if Dak improves, the whole offense does.
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(07-26-2019, 01:47 AM)cern Wrote: with the new ad hoc gm, Stephen, making more  and more of the personnel decisions, the cowboys are heading in the right direction.  and kudos to will mcclay as well.  these two have put together a decent cast of characters.  all that remains is for the coaches to get the best from them.

If Stephen is "making more and more of the personnel decisions"..... then Will McClay is not doing his job.... nor is the rest of the scouting staff or the coaches.  If Stephen is making those decisions, then he is over-riding the opinions, evaluations, and desires of the staff.  That would be an idiotic way to run a NFL team..... if that's how things were being done..... but of course..... it's not.
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(07-27-2019, 02:55 AM)StarHart Wrote:
(07-26-2019, 01:17 AM)cellarrodent Wrote: I think you have to consider this is a 'brand new year'...  What they accomplished in the second half of last year doesn't really mean anything to kick off the new year?  It's not like the momentum just automatically and naturally carries over to the new season.  So yes, they have some talent, I realize your always optimistic, but this is a brand new year as well.  Hopefully Kitna's had an impact, and hopefully the 'highly' inexperienced Moore makes a smooth transition, but again, none of us have a clue how the 2019 season will go.  It's gonna be interesting anyway!

Maybe you have to consider that... I don't. 

The most accurate information we have about the state of this team, is the last 8 games of last year.  For the most part, it's the same team, with a few upgrades.  Freddy back at C is an upgrade over Looney, even though Looney played well.
I think Cobb is a bit of an upgrade over Beasley, and having Witten back is certainly an upgrade there.

While momentum doesn't carry over, there is no reason to think players won't improve..... most of them are young and experience will bring some improvement, and more time together should as well.  The new coaches, experience and maturity should help Dak improve.... and if Dak improves, the whole offense does.
That's great, and 'yes' I clearly understand that you don't.  But the last 8 games of last year mean nothing at all in 2019, whether it's the same team or otherwise...  Time to do it all again, and see what comes out in the mix.  I'm happy you feel Cobb is an upgrade over Beas, I definitely don't.  Let's see how healthy he can be as well...  I think Witten's a mismatch for most, but long past his tenure here...  He'll get his, but won't start any fires imo...  Dak's a huge question mark for me, so I'll just have to wait n see, rather than automatically giving him additional accolades.  Certainly 'not' worth 30+ million in my book anyway.  Fired up about the D though, and would love to see smore of what they gave us last year, but again it's a new year, and last years performance means little if nothing at all!
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If the team had lost more of the last 8 games than they won.... you would say that THAT is relevant, as you often try to do with the last 20 years.... it's not surprising that you want to omit any positive information about the team. Dismissing what is the most pertinent information available makes no sense at all! Young players tend to improve with the experience and practice that comes with an off-season, and this is a young team!
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(07-27-2019, 04:18 AM)StarHart Wrote: If the team had lost more of the last 8 games than they won.... you would say that THAT is relevant, as you often try to do with the last 20 years.... it's not surprising that you want to omit any positive information about the team.  Dismissing what is the most pertinent information available makes no sense at all!  Young players tend to improve with the experience and practice that comes with an off-season, and this is a young team!
No, I wouldn't say that's "relevant" at all...actually!  I would say that every year is a "brand new year" though, as I think I already have?  It's great this is a young team, and yes they have some talent on both sides at least for this year, but none of it really matters if they don't win in the post season.  So young, old, medium, over easy...we haven't won, so until then...
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(07-30-2019, 03:42 AM)cellarrodent Wrote:
(07-27-2019, 04:18 AM)StarHart Wrote: If the team had lost more of the last 8 games than they won.... you would say that THAT is relevant, as you often try to do with the last 20 years.... it's not surprising that you want to omit any positive information about the team.  Dismissing what is the most pertinent information available makes no sense at all!  Young players tend to improve with the experience and practice that comes with an off-season, and this is a young team!
No, I wouldn't say that's "relevant" at all...actually!  I would say that every year is a "brand new year" though, as I think I already have?  It's great this is a young team, and yes they have some talent on both sides at least for this year, but none of it really matters if they don't win in the post season.  So young, old, medium, over easy...we haven't won, so until then...

I'm going to have to call BS on this one!  You rail about this team and how a lack of deep playoff success over the last 20 years indicates that they won't succeed anytime soon, and now you want to deny that the most recent information is irrelevant.  If the last half of last year means nothing about where this team is and what they can do, then the last 20 years would mean less than nothing.
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